YouTube video on Act I, scenes 1 - 4:
The political context of Shakespeare's England in 1606, the year Macbeth was first performed, is important to note. It shows that the establishment of a ruler in England and Scotland was supposed to be a very clear, objective matter-- established by a hereditary line--usually from father to first-born son, king to king, but if there are no males, then the daughter becomes the ruler, the Queen. But what constitutes a royal lineage is often highly contested and vulnerable to different interpretations. If the king is supposed to have absolute power, then the origins of that power are in reality very fragile.
When Henry VIII died, Elizabeth I became Queen, because Henry VIII had no sons. Elizabeth I was the queen during Shakespeare's first 11 years as a playwright and theater entrepreneur, and she supported him. (Elizabeth was a Protestant and she made the Church of England Protestant, but, according to recent research, Shakespeare's father John was a Catholic, and so if William still believed in Catholicism, he had to hide it. Scotland is the setting of Macbeth, and Scotland was a Catholic country.) There were Catholics who made the argument that the Catholic Mary Queen of Scots (Scotland) was the rightful ruler of England, because she was the oldest surviving child of Henry VIII's father, Henry VII of England, and these people didn't recognize the validity of Henry VIII's last marriage, since he had converted to the Protestant religion.
Scotland was separate from England until 1603, 3 years before the play was produced. King James VI of Scotland inherited the throne from his mother, Mary Queen of Scots when he was only a year old in 1567, because Mary had opponents who ran her out of the country for some questionable actions. Mary tried to get the protection of her cousin, Elizabeth I, but she was basically imprisoned by Elizabeth and later executed, because Elizabeth feared Mary's claim to the English throne and thought Mary was plotting against her. (Mary and Elizabeth's big ornate tombs are in the same room--not even 10 feet from each other-- in London's Westminster Abbey.)
Further elaboration of Act I, scenes 1-4, Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:36 am
A major theme early in the play, which is tied to the theme of loyalty to the king of the nation, is trust. And along with that is the irony that trust is a very fragile thing. Look at what King Duncan says when he's angry about the Thane of Cawdor's betrayal:
There's no art
To find the mind's construction in the face.
He was a gentleman on whom I built
An absolute trust. (Act I, Scene 4, lines 12-16)
(You don't have to mention the page number in Essay 2 if you cite act, scenes, and lines, but it's 24 in our No Fear Shakespeare edition.
Notice the word "built" near the word "construction." Shakespeare's plays are truly poetry, especially because he uses many tropes in characters' dialogues and soliloquies. (Also, the noble or "upper class" characters speak in iambic pentameter.) Here, trust is like a building that you construct. But what does one construct it out of? Perhaps a leader will see a certain consistency of behavior in his subordinates for a long period of time, but as the king suggests, people tend to look for trustworthiness in someone's facial expressions.
Think about this issue of trust in the context of all that has been going on in the first four scenes of the play: Duncan trusted MacDonwald and the Thane of Cawdor and found out that he couldn't; Macbeth and Banquo earned his trust by winning the double battle for Duncan, and he puts so much trust in Macbeth that he decides to become the great general's guest the very same evening that Macbeth comes back from the war. Macbeth and Banquo don't know whether they should trust the witches' prophecies about them. And given Macbeth's asides and soliloquies, the audience at this point might wonder whether Duncan should trust Macbeth. (So far, we haven't met Macbeth's wife, but we are about to.)
And in my video, I didn't talk about iambic pentameter. Has anyone looked it up? Take the beautiful line: "To take the mind's construction in the face."
If you pay attention to the weak and strong syllables, you'll see that there's a pattern; first notice: To take--the first syllable is weak or unaccented, and the "TAKE" is more strongly emphasized or accented." The same goes for "the MIND'S," and "con STRUC," and "IN" and "FACE," whereas "the," "con," "ion," and "the" aren't said as forcefully.
There are five units in iambic pentameter. These units are called iambs (consisting each of one weak and one strong syllable). In Greek the word "pent" means five. Of course, 5 x 2 = 10. 5 iambs, 10 syllables. The word "meter" means the measurement of weak and strong syllables within a particular unit.
Let me give you contemporary examples of iambic or non-iambic meter:
ba RACK o BA ma (the first 2 syllables are an iamb, and so are the next 2, but the final syllable is extra)
You would never pronounce his name: BA rack O ba MA, right?
DON ald TRUMP (the first syllable is extra: the iamb is ald TRUMP)
MONDAY, APRIL 6: MACBETH, ACT I, Scenes 5-7
Scene 5- Notice, in the letter to Lady Macbeth that she reads at the beginning of the scene, how Macbeth associates his success with HER success: "my dearest partner of greatness" and "what greatness is promised thee"--being a queen (p. 30- I, 5, 1-13). Does it perhaps signify that she has, in the past, already made it clear to him that she is deeply invested in his power and status and he is acknowledging that? Does the letter also imply that Macbeth himself was very ambitious (at least unconsciously) even before the witches spoke to him? Or could Lady Macbeth have been the driving force behind her husband's ambition all along? In a patriarchal society like Renaissance Scotland (or England), very few women would have any opportunity to gain power and status on their own, so if Lady Macbeth is truly ambitious on behalf of her husband, a feminist analysis--see topic 1 for essay 2-- could explain it.
Lady Macbeth's reaction to the letter is tremendously revealing. In essay 2, I could imagine quite a few of you quoting the whole soliloquy on p. 28 (lines 14-28) or a lot of it as a block quote and then analyzing what it reveals about her psychological makeup. She's only thrilled for exactly one sentence, and then she starts doubting her husband's ability "to catch the nearest way" of becoming king because, although she knows he has SOME ambition, he's TOO NICE! So what does she mean by "the nearest way"? I think you know. It's not nice. She talks about morality and how it stands in the way of ambition. You see, the issue of trust comes in again: she trusts him as a faithful husband, but she doesn't trust his ability to do what she considers the best thing because of his character traits. She believes that she needs to use her persuasive powers, and she uses exactly the same trope of pouring something into a person's ear that is used in Hamlet about five years earlier to describe how Hamlet's uncle Claudius killed Hamlet's father the king by pouring poison into his ear. Lady M doesn't consider it poison but medicine, but the play's audience might well consider it poison: "Hie thee hither,/ That I might pour my spirits in thine ear/ And chastise with the valor of my tongue/ All that impedes thee from the golden round...." "Spirits" can mean liquor (alcohol) or intoxication and can also mean spirited behavior. Also notice the words "chastise" and "valor" (bravery). Think about what techniques of persuasion Lady M wants to use on her husband.
Next, Lady M is surprised (and maybe happy) to find that the king is coming to visit, which we already know from the previous scene, but are you surprised that she then speaks of "the fatal entrance of Duncan"? Was it obvious already what she was up to? She pretends to be annoyed at the short notice, but is she really annoyed or faking it?
But look at the next soliloquy (after the servant announcing the visit has left and before her husband returns) from lines 39 to 55 of the scene; even she might have a little trouble from her conscience, so she is telling herself not only to be tough and to ignore ordinary morality for the sake of her ambition but also that she can't "be" a woman any more: "unsex me here.... / Come to my woman's breasts,/ And take my milk for gall...." If you are doing a feminist analysis of the play, you definitely need to quote some of this passage and look at how one or two critics deal with what seems to be the stereotyping of female AND male behavior. Even if you're not doing feminist analysis in the paper, this passage would also connect with topics 2 and 4 and maybe even 3. It's interesting that in this one scene, we find 2 of the most famous and remarkable soliloquies in the play.
The dialogue between M and Lady M (p. 34, lines 55-76) is brief, and there's definitely some sweet-talking, but can you identify the sentence in which she forcefully tells him what she thinks has to happen? And does he agree or does he delay the conversation? And why? (Obviously, you're not necessarily going to answer all my questions in the comments section of this blog post, but always try to find an answer on your own.)
Scene 6- This scene has beautiful courtly language, but we don't need to discuss it, beyond saying that everybody's incredibly polite to one another, especially Lady M, who wants the king to think that she is tremendously loyal to him and is entirely in his service and loves serving him. Is she a good actress in terms of gaining his trust?
Scene 7- I think we've seen so far that Shakespeare in this play is already a master of psychology. Macbeth's extremely poetic soliloquy shows that, even before his wife has a chance to pour her persuasive words into his ear, he's already thinking about how to use the opportunity that Duncan has inadvertently given him to "replace" him as King because he says it needs to be done quickly, but, perhaps more importantly, the speech also shows that his wife was right in her first soliloquy: he does have an active conscience, and he rehearses all the reasons that the murder would be morally wrong and would come back to haunt him.
Note that the word "trust" is present; it is becoming a motif (recurring trope or image) in the play, not only a major theme. He knows Duncan trusts him and has "double" reason to do so. And this is not only about the Divine Right of Kings and the sanctity of hereditary succession to the throne because M talks about what a kind, moral, benevolent, mild guy Duncan is--he's not a cruel despot. The last sentence of the soliloquy shows that M, like his wife 2 soliloquies ago, is not sure he can pull it off; his ambition may not be strong enough.
In the second part of this scene, look very carefully at the dialogue between M and Lady M.:
- How does he carry his indecision from the soliloquy right before into his first major statement to his wife?
- What techniques does she use to convince him to go against his sense of morality?
- Does her rhetoric-- her way of speaking, tropes, and images--have any thing to do with the ideas about gender/sex that she included in her second soliloquy?
- What are the key words in her persuasive speeches in this dialogue?
- What effect do her arguments have on M by the end of the scene? And why?
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YouTube video on Act II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_NhyfNEmAc
Please click on the link above and watch this before class on Monday, April 20 or at the beginning of class.
Good Morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteJust watched the video on Macbet 1-4. No questions so far. Also i have sent you my first body paragraph. Just wanted to confirm if you have received it.
Sarzin SIam
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Sarzin,
ReplyDeleteI got it several hours ago. Thanks. Glad you watched the video. If you have time, we're discussing the outline for essay 1 on the "Essay 1: Organization" post and comments section.
Good morning Prof. Fink I’ve watched the scenes in Macbeth and I don’t have any questions so far.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Edona: I hope you enjoy reading the play. The modern version will help you with the original version on the left side. And if you have any time, you can look at a few YouTube scenes on line from movies and stage productions of the play.
DeleteWill do sir!
Deletegoodmorning prof. Fink no questions so far but watched the scenes
ReplyDeleteIt's great that you watched the scenes! But your post says "Unknown." Please identify yourself so I can give you credit.
DeleteGood evening professor Fink I enjoyed watching your video of Macbeth act 1-4 I have no questions. Be safe!
ReplyDeleteOne thing I'd like to re-emphasize, Jamie and everyone in 102, and I will copy and paste this onto the main section of the blog, is that a major theme early in the play, which is tied to the theme of loyalty to the king of the nation, is trust. And along with that is the irony that trust is a very fragile thing. Look at what King Duncan says when he's angry about the Thane of Cawdor's betrayal:
ReplyDeleteThere's no art
To find the mind's construction in the face.
He was a gentleman on whom I built
An absolute trust. (Act I, Scene 4, lines 12-16)
(You don't have to mention the page number in Essay 2 if you cite act, scenes, and lines, but it's 24 in our No Fear Shakespeare edition.
Notice the word "built" near the word "construction." Shakespeare's plays are truly poetry, especially because he uses many tropes in characters' dialogues and soliloquies. (Also, the noble or "upper class" characters speak in iambic pentameter.) Here, trust is like a building that you construct. But what does one construct it out of? Perhaps a leader will see a certain consistency of behavior in his subordinates for a long period of time, but as the king suggests, people tend to look for trustworthiness in someone's facial expressions.
Think about this issue of trust in the context of all that has been going on in the first four scenes of the play: Duncan trusted MacDonwald and the Thane of Cawdor and found out that he couldn't; Macbeth and Banquo earned his trust by winning the double battle for Duncan, and he puts so much trust in Macbeth that he decides to become the great general's guest the very same evening that Macbeth comes back from the war. Macbeth and Banquo don't know whether they should trust the witches' prophecies about them. And given Macbeth's asides and soliloquies, the audience at this point might wonder whether Duncan should trust Macbeth. (So far, we haven't met Macbeth's wife, but we are about to.)
Good Morning professor, i'm a little confused on how to follow the play, is a different version of the play avaiable on spark notes? or is this something else/the play itself that we should order?
ReplyDelete-Brittany Rosendo
Brittany, If you didn't have a chance to get No Fear Shakespeare (which is published by SparkNotes) at our college bookstore before the campus closed, then you will google "No Fear Shakespeare" "Macbeth," and you will find ads for Amazon, etc. for the book BUT you will also find the same thing online--without page numbers. It will have both the original, which we will discuss in class AND the translation into today's English. DON'T ORDER ANY HARD COPY BOOK NOW: you'll get it after the term is over, probably. The reason I told you to get the book form when we first assembled as a class is that now you're going to have a harder time reading it online than you would turning the pages of a book.
Deleteperfect, thank you very much!!! I remember reading Macbeth when I was in highschool but that copy disappeared, however I'm very excited to read Macbeth again, but in this time but from a new perspective!
Deletebut this time from a new perspective*
DeleteGood morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteJust watched Macbeth Act I, scenes 1 -4, no questions so far.
Madelin
OK, Madelin--good. But see if you have any questions about doing Essay 1.
DeleteGood Morning,
ReplyDeleteI feel the issue a trust will lead to many betrayals in the same manner that there was in the real world politics at the time. Especially how Elizabeth I executes her own cousin for fear of a usurper. We can already see a foreshadow if this when the witches say Macbeth will become King and Banquos kids will be come kings.
Freddy, you are already developing an interesting analysis if you choose topic 2 for essay 2, and you should copy and paste what you just said into a document that you'll use for essay 2--even if we haven't even finished essay 1! And you are right to use the literary term, foreshadowing. Indeed, the witches in general are the essence of foreshadowing, but it's a complex matter of interpreting their words, not easy, even for an audience member seeing the play for the first time.
DeleteGood Morning, I really enjoyed reading Macbeth. Since I have read Macbeth already, what I did was: I read the right hand of the book, but I will also read the original.
ReplyDeleteYes, Gabriela, the reason it is crucial to read the original (after the modern side) is: 1) You will have to quote from the original in the essay, not the modern language, 2) Many tropes and images and rhythms are very beautiful and interesting, and it would be a shame not to understand them, 3) When the translation has something misleading, I will tell you if I notice it. Basically, the translation is usually excellent. You may wonder why I think I know more than the translators; I may know more than them about SOME aspects of Shakespeare study because when I was a PhD student at Columbia, I took a Shakespeare course for 2 and a half years; the professor, an old fashioned scholar, did a tremendous amount of close reading of lines--much more than we have time for in our class. Also, for the PhD exam, I had to know Shakespeare pretty well. But that was many years ago: since then, whenever I teach a Shakespeare play, I go through the professional critics pretty carefully.
DeleteI also find Shakespeare's images and rhythms very beautiful.
DeleteDon't worry, I'm also reading the original. I'm really impress by your 2 and a half years of studying Shakespeare, because, for me, the grammar used in that age is really complex
I attempted to read the original left side of the book, but was having a difficult time. So I read one dialogue of the right then one dialogue of the left. It was a lot better that way.
DeleteThank you!!
DeleteGood morning professor
ReplyDeleteI have watched your video of Macbeth act I scenes 1-4 and after watching the video I had no more questions about the scenes.
OK, Jhonny, do you have any questions about how to do Essay 1?
DeleteJust finished the video I have no questions so far. I also got your email about the body paragraph i'll be sure to make the revisions.
ReplyDeleteElvin, you don't need to resubmit the body paragraph to me. Just please make the revisions in the paper itself that you are submitting on Apr. 6. Thanks.
DeleteGood Morning professor,
ReplyDeleteI have watched the video on Macbeth and have no questions so far.
This is from Edona, who did summaries:
ReplyDeleteIn Act 1 scene 1, the 3 witches talking about meeting Macbeth after the battle, and started chanting.
In Act 1 scene 2, Duncan, the King of Scotland, was talking about the battle and how the rebels made an alliance with the Norwegian King (Scotland’s enemy). The sons and Duncan talked about how their enemies are planning to take over Scotland with a huge amount of soldiers behind them. A wounded soldier came to Duncan to talk about the latest news of the battlefield. Macbeth and Banquo didn’t stop fighting in the battle field and Macbeth killed Thane of Cawdor. Duncan was happy to hear this news about Macbeth.
Reply from me: These are appropriate summaries.
I finished the video professor, I have no questions about the scenes so far.
ReplyDeleteEthiel, you'll see that I added a few extra points in writing on the main section of this blog post.
DeleteGood morning professor the video was really helpful thank you.
ReplyDeleteI have no questions.
Giselle, the extra points that I've supplied in writing on the main section of the blog post deal not only with the issue of trust but with the poetic form that Shakespeare uses, iambic pentameter, for his characters' speeches.
DeleteI watched the video but I'm afraid I took a bit too long as it's past 11:15. I have a decent understanding of old English and your explanations really helped as well combined with the modern interpretation, so no questions here.
ReplyDeleteTJ, never worry about asynchronous posting. As you know, I read and respond to email every day, but what I'm going to start to do is to read the comments section of the blog once every day I'm not teaching so that I can respond, if necessary, to asynchronous posts. Of course, if you can't post during a particular time frame, it's just as good to send an email.
DeleteJaimy and others pointed out to me today that I have not introduced any of you to your peer-critiquing partners. You will receive an email from me today about who you your partner is, though in some cases, a group may have three people. Since I'm sending the email to both of you, you will be able to see your partner's email address.
ReplyDeleteSince I haven't gotten any questions about how to do essay 1 during class today, please send them via email in the next few days. (I will only be checking our blog comments section briefly, once a day until Monday.)
Thanks professor the video was really helpful I have no questions.
ReplyDelete-Kaniya White
DeleteHey Professor
ReplyDeleteThanks for the helpful information. I was just wondering that i can hand it the paper by 9 PM right??
Yes, Sarzin. That's right.
DeleteGood morning,
ReplyDeleteit seems as if Lady M uses a lot of Ms own ambitions to persuade him to pursue the crown and to try and make that his number one priority
Munir Haider
You can definitely argue for that position. You would be opposing the idea (that some people have) that Lady M is the one who's really ambitious and she merely abuses him psychologically to get what she wants. Your view is that they are BOTH ambitious, and Lady M just wants to persuade him to use particular techniques (evil ones) to achieve their mutual goals.
DeleteIn scene 5 pg 34 I feel like Lady M forcefully tells Macbeth what has to happen on line 68. "He that's coming must be provided for; and you shall put this night's great business into my dispatch." Her tone seemed very demanding.
ReplyDeleteYes, Elvin, she is essentially saying that she will make the "battle plan" and he will follow it. In other words, even though she emphasizes the benefit to both of them of her ideas in the last 2 lines of the speech ("sovereign sway and masterdom"), she is acting like the general and expects him to be the foot soldier who does the actual killing.
DeleteMacbeth also delays the conversation by saying they will discuss further
ReplyDeleteRight: he delays it because he is ambivalent: he's very ambitious, as Munir said earlier, but he also feels a moral obligation to obey the divine right of kings. (Of course, Shakespeare couldn't have directly mentioned King James I's doctrine in a play that was not literally supposed to be about the English ruler and the playwright's patron, but I think that the sophisticated viewers of the drama knew that he was alluding to it.) Not only does Macbeth feel that he must show loyalty to his sovereign, but there's enough Christian imagery (and other comments by Macbeth later on) to suggest that he felt that murder outside of war was a major sin.
DeleteGood Morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed your video. So far I see Macbeth struggling with morality yet he is still capable of brutality of way such as splitting a foe from navel to the chops and setting his head on a pike. Yet this murder torments him. There is no clear "good guy" for me so far.
Lady M continuously goads him into killing Duncan and once it is done she attacks his character indirectly. When Macbeth talks about the blood that is on his hands now Lady M basically does the Italian Mobster phrase "Forget about it". Its easy for me to draw a Comparison of Lady Cersei of Game of Thrones and Lady Macbeth.
DeleteYes, Freddy, the sword-splitting is a very important detail in evaluating the overall psychological makeup and moral status of Macbeth. We may find that Macbeth's struggle with morality is either the central drama of the play or shares that status with one or two other elements.
DeleteWould Duncan be the "good guy"? Could that title fall to Banquo? Or maybe someone else? We shall see.
Freddy, you have identified a key aspect that must be confronted in any analysis that responds to topic 1 or 4 for essay 2.
DeleteIn that last reply, I should have made it clear that I was referring to what Freddy said about Lady M's goading.
DeleteGood morning professor,
ReplyDeleteYes I do notice that is something TRUST that is used a lot, it could be because no one suspects anything of you, they feel comfort on you that u would do them no harm, but sometimes people take advantage of that.
Giselle, Macbeth really was a trustworthy servant of Duncan UNTIL the witches made their prophecy. Perhaps evil intentions were always a latent part of Macbeth's character, but they were activated by the witches seeming to create a new identity for him. After M and Lady M develop their plan to become the ruling couple, they both, as you say, capitalize on their ability to SEEM trustworthy, but perhaps, as the play moves forward, the cracks in their game of pretending may gradually be more and more evident.
DeleteGood morning,
ReplyDeleteIn terms of the relationship between Lady Macbeth and Macbeth, I noticed that it almost subverts traditional stereotypes of females, especially during the medieval times, where they were more docile and out of the way while the men did all the commanding and violence. In Macbeth, although she seems to love him and attribute everything to them as a whole rather than just him or just her, she seems to be controlling Macbeth's kingdom using him as a proxy and carries most of the power in their relationship as opposed to Macbeth himself.
Yes, TJ, for those who will be doing either topic 1 or 4 for essay 2, it will be vital to explore this subversion of gender stereotype, and it's also useful to see, as one critic we'll read will show us, how she uses those stereotypes for her benefit, AND, finally, how in some smaller ways she conforms to the traditional role. You spoke of "medieval times," but I think you mean Renaissance or (recently) "Early Modern."
DeleteYeah, apologies, I did mean Renaissance, I have a bad habit of saying medieval when kings and such get involved.
DeleteGood Morning professor,
ReplyDeleteI notice that trust is really important throughout this play especially between Duncan and Macbeth. I think trust is what will help build the play to its climax where we learn what it takes for Macbeth to become king and after that what it takes for Banquo's descendants to become kings.
I see that Lady M would much rather take matters into her own hands to make Macbeth king and her the queen. She is ambitious and believes she will be the only one that can push Macbeth to do things to get to the top. But it is seen clearly that Macbeth still has doubts (p.34 lines 70-73) that as Lady M tries to convince him of probably killing the king right there during the dinner. But Macbeth would rather talk things over with her because he has an inner conflict with his desires and to where his loyalty lies seeing as how the king emphasizes on the word trust.
On the whole, Jaimy, your analysis makes good sense. But when you use the term climax, I'm a little confused, because you have 2 different points of reference. We don't have to anticipate which of these or perhaps some other point constitutes the climax, because that can be a main feature of our discussion of Act V.
DeleteYes you're correct sorry about that I shouldn't have put climax but instead say how it builds the situation into its results og what will happen between them.
DeleteTrust is important between Duncan and Macbeth. I think trust is the key in this play.
ReplyDeleteYes, Ethiel, first it's the trust between Duncan and Macbeth. Then Macbeth and Banquo. Then the sons of Duncan and noblemen in the kingdom. Then Macbeth and other characters.
DeleteMacbeth's soliloquies remind me very much of the Roman emperor Nero, last of the Julio-Claudian dynasty. Nero, too, was highly influenced by a woman, his mother. He was also unusually mentally disturbed, and he ended up killing his mother, Agrippina. Just like LM, Agrippina was the structure, the intelligence behind an unstable man. Nero was Agrippina's subject as much as Macbeth is LM's subject. They're poppets of very ambitious and power-hungry women. Will Macbeth just like Nero grow tired of this woman behind his actions? Will Lady Macbeth once Macbeth completely loses it take power? Is that her goal?
ReplyDelete- Samuel Garcia.
Sam, the parallel with the great fiddler Nero is well drawn. At this point, we have no indication that Lady M wants to seize power from her husband. What we do see is that they are very affectionate with each other. We don't hear anything about children, so it can be assumed that they don't have any, though Lady M makes reference to what she would do if she were the mother of an infant. The fact that they have no kids might be considered in light of the witches' prophecy for Banquo: "lesser than Macbeth and greater."
DeleteReading this act, I think trust is an important component.
ReplyDelete-Jenny Lin.
Yes, Jenny, and it will continue to be. I've identified trust as a motif (a recurrent bit of language--sometimes a trope, sometimes an image, but not in this case). Another motif you'll find will be sleep. Perhaps you will find a connection between the two.
DeleteI'm happy with the progress of our discussion of Macbeth, and I hope you are, too. I wish everyone a good and safe break. My video on Act II will be available soon.
ReplyDeleteWhen you send me essay 1 today, please put it in a Word attachment. Frequently, I can't access share points and Google docs, etc. and a PDF often does not allow me to copy and paste in order to write comments in bold in the body of your paper. You will see that these smaller comments come first, then I have a grading rubric after that.
I also agree with a few of my other classmates about how trust seems to be a very relevant factor throughout the play with characters such as the sons of Duncan and noblemen and Macbeth and Banquo.
ReplyDelete-Kaniya White
Kaniya,
DeleteYou'll see that the trust motif continues to evolve in Acts II and III. Macduff becomes a key figure in this.
Good Morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteI have watched your video of Act 2. I don't have ant questions yet.
Freddy, do you have any observations about the psychological dynamics of the characters' interactions in the dialogues of Act II that I didn't cover? (Other students can answer this as well.)
ReplyDeleteGood Morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteI watch the video and I agree I also found it interesting on how Lady Macbeth said she would do the deed and how she was saying she was more of a man then Macbeth and at the end she couldn't to it.
Yes, Giselle, so I believe that this apparent contradiction is something that a student writing about topics 1 (on patriarchy) or 4 (character analysis of Lady M) can bring up in their paper. As the play progresses, you are going to want to look at whether or not she continues her male-centered language to control her husband and whether or not the same kind of "female" conscience affects her that is already causing psychological trouble for him.
ReplyDeleteMy notes on optional revision of essay 1 in the "Essay 1: Organization" were written up but not posted, so I'm doing that now. Sorry for the delay. Feel free to post in that section if you have general questions, but specific revision questions should be asked in an email.
ReplyDeleteI have completed transcribing the notes, which I should have just typed on the "Essay 1: Organization" post in the first place.
DeleteGood Morning Professor
ReplyDeleteI have completed the video. I find it interesting how the dialogue used between characters in the story can be very indirect and it can display both their real desires and it’s message of the character.
- Darry Lopez
Yes, Darry: indirectness is necessary when noblemen and women converse, because they have particular codes of politeness, but also, it goes back to the motif of trust: the characters can't trust each other, so they can't directly state their desires. and in Macbeth and Lady M's case, they can't reveal their evil intentions based on desires that would be deeply disapproved by their class peers, superiors, and inferiors. But you're right that Shakespeare is able to make this indirect discourse very clear to the audience.
DeleteGood morning professor, I have finished watching the video, and I must say, you have a knack for dramatic reading, ever thought about taking a job in theater?
ReplyDeleteAs for the reading itself, I feel the degeneracy of Macbeth's mind is clearly defined even in these early chapters, with how he speaks of hearing voices ("Macbeth does murder sleep") and his wife knows this, as she realizes he's already slipping, and trying to kind of bring him back into reality before he goes too far.
Thank you, TJ, but I apologize for my inability to do a Scottish accent; it would require a lot of time for me to listen to and master. My "job in theater" is doing poetry readings once or twice a year. And I wish we were all together and many of us could play parts, as we did in 102 in Fall 1 and Fall 2. Oh well....
DeleteYour point about Macbeth's psychological decline is very important, and I think anyone who does topic 3 (on Macbeth himself) and perhaps topic 2 (on power relations and the divine right of kings) would have to strongly consider what you're saying. Also, given that it's Lady Macbeth who is trying tobring him back to reality--and even moreso in Act III--her use of gendered language to do this also applies to topics 1 and r4.
Morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteso, basically Banquo started doubting Macbeth because of the dream he had??
Gabriela, isn't the dream merely a reflection of his own waking anxiety about signs of Macbeth's behavior after the two of them heard the 3 witches' prophecies? He must have started doubting him before the dream. Freud said that dreams are a wish fulfillment, but even if he's often right, there are also certainly anxiety dreams--expressions of fears acquired during the waking state as well as the manifestation of unconscious drives.
DeleteSpeaking of Freud, who some people still validate and others only partly agree with, he got numerous examples for his psychological theories from Shakespeare (and also Sophocles). He said, "The poets were there before we were."
ooh, interesting. I get it now.
DeleteIt makes sense because Banquo did seem anxious about the 3 witches' prophecy.
Thank you
The dialogue between the characters were very interesting because it shows the impulse that they want.
ReplyDeleteRight, Ethiel, and maybe when Macbeth is saying on p. 72:
DeleteHad I but died an hour before this chance. . . .
Is left this vault to brag of (II, 3, lines 86-91)
in some sense, he really means it. There might be opposite impulses that are simultaneously at work. Maybe his impulse is to mourn the death of the good King Duncan because he really feels terrible about it, but his opposite impulse is to hide his crime, which is based on his impulse to satisfy his ambition is equally powerful.
And if this idea of opposite impulses is supportable, then it would also apply to the famous speech on p. 74, lines 104-114: "Who can be wise, amazed...."
DeleteAgreeing or disagreeing with this concept, which is presented by one of the critical pieces I'll be sending to serve as your research elements, will be important for topic 3 and maybe for topic 2. (Of course, it's too early for you to decide what topic you're choosing.)
Good Morning Professor,
ReplyDeleteI have seen your video and I am very intrigued as to how Lady M and Macbeth act before they are told the king has been killed and after. Macbeth felt horrid about what he has done and Lady M was practically telling him to suck it up. After the news came to them their whole phase changed, it seemed as Lady M is a great actress as if she didn't see it coming. But for Macbeth it was somehow different it's as if he didn't even kill him saying all these great things about King Duncan. It almost looked as if he forgot he did it that someone else did, I think he might have went crazy.
Yes, Jaimy, Lady M is a great actress--now. Let's see if she's a great actress until the end of the play. The theory of opposite impulses might fit what you're saying about Macbeth's ability to forget that he killed Duncan; if you have 2 opposite impulses, at any given time, maybe 1 has to be dominant. On the other hand, if you want to be a good actor, then you forget your own past actions and focus on what another person would feel instead of what you actually feel. It's not necessarily insanity, because a politician who does evil and wants to conceal it has to compartmentalize, right?
DeleteOh now I understand, yes you are completely right.
DeleteI want to ask everyone: why do you think Macduff is not going to Macbeth's coronation? And why does Macduff say the rhyming couplet on the top of p. 82, "Well may you see things well done there. Adieu,/ Lest our old robes sit easier than our new!" (II, 4, lines 38-39)? What's his indirect point?
ReplyDeleteI think what Macduff is trying to say is doubting Macbeths rule as if he might not be fit to be king.
ReplyDeleteThis makes sense to me, Jaimy.
ReplyDeleteI believe that we've covered some key points about Act II in our discussion today.
ReplyDeleteOur synchronous part of the class this Wednesday will be a little different. You remember peer-critiquing from the beginning of the semester and maybe from your ENG 101. Well, we can't do it so easily, right? But what I did instead on the "Essay 2: Macbeth Acts III and IV post," which will go live in 10 minutes, is to pose a set of questions about Act III, and if we can have different students respond to different questions of their choice, we can have a lively discussion going before, during, and after 10:30 to 11:30 on Wednesday.